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Issue date: 11/2/07 Section: News

College pushes for minor in business*

Wharton: Proposed courseload a 'dilution' of established curriculum

Rebecca Kaplan

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Correction appended

Penn students might soon be able to find a business education outside Huntsman Hall, but without Wharton's blessing.

College administrators, along with the Dean's Advisory Board, are working on a plan to create a new, business-based minor called B-FLAT - Budgeting, Finance, Leadership and Teamwork.

But over at Wharton, officials don't see the point.

"I think it provides a disservice to the school," said Georgette Chapman Phillips, Wharton's vice dean of Undergraduate Education. "If you are going to take all these business classes, why aren't you doing it in" Wharton?

The minor, first proposed last year, is designed to provide college students with a comprehensive understanding of the business world.

If passed, it will likely consist of four core courses yet to be determined and two electives. It would be offered through the Fels School of Government.

Phillips called the proposed course load a "dilution" of the rigorous business education that Wharton already offers.

Still, College officials say, it won't be interchangeable with a Wharton education.

College Dean Dennis DeTurck said Wharton classes are taught as part of a larger series of courses designed to provide a complete education. As a result, introductory classes in subjects like marketing or finance provide an education that is "in depth but not comprehensive."

College senior Elie Gittler, a member of the Dean's Advisory Board - a group of students that serves as a liaison between students and DeTurck - added that the minor should "complement the college education" and "will not substitute for the professional, technical and quantitative knowledge offered in the Wharton curriculum."

Gittler also said many students view Wharton classes as "too difficult and not worth their time."

Though the minor may be well suited to some, students with an intense interest in business seem likely to stick with Wharton.

College sophomore Nicole Harris, for example, said she would consider the B-FLAT minor if she could apply Wharton courses to fulfill some of its requirements. If not, she said, she would prefer Wharton's courses.

Wharton and College sophomore Elizabeth Volynsky, currently pursuing a dual degree in Wharton and the College, has similar preferences.

Even if the College had offered a minor before she transferred, Volynsky said, she probably would have opted to switch regardless.

In the meantime, College and Fels officials are working to develop the core courses further before presenting a final plan to the faculty.

And despite Wharton's opposition, those involved with B-FLAT remain positive about its potential.

"It's the kind of thing that many students have said they see great value in," Kettl said.

Correction: Due to an editing error, the first reference Dr. Don Kettl, Director of the the Fels Institute of Government, was inadvertently omitted.
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Sweet editing error

posted 11/02/07 @ 10:15 AM EST

Kettl is Dr. Don Kettl, Director of the the Fels Institute of Government. Looks like a quote by him earlier in the piece got cut.

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Mark P

posted 11/02/07 @ 10:51 AM EST

The minor being "a disservice to the school" is BS. It would be a disservice to WHARTON in deterring people from wanting to be in The Wharton School, but a service to the One UNIVERSITYas a whole by encouraging more students to take courses in various fields. (Continued…)

Alum, NY

posted 11/02/07 @ 1:33 PM EST

Gittler also said many students view Wharton classes as "too difficult and not worth their time."

what? this is the first time I've heard this. The toughest classes at Penn undergrad are all in the College and SEAS (MATH, CHEM, PHYS, BIO, Engineering). (Continued…)

College alum

posted 11/02/07 @ 2:10 PM EST

I'm not sure if I understand all the comments above, or the quotes in the article, but the whole thing sounds kind of dumb. A business class at Penn, not offered by Wharton, will probably be watered down fluff and devalue the College degree. (Continued…)

Wharton Alum 2007

posted 11/02/07 @ 3:36 PM EST

Dude, is this for real? They can already take marketing 101, even upper level management classes if they want to. One of my good friends had a real interest in business, took consulting to growth companies with me and several other Wharton classes (AS WHARTON CLASSES) and now he works for Booz Allen. (Continued…)

Liberal, not lazy

posted 11/02/07 @ 4:23 PM EST

Wharton alum, while I agree with your argument that students wanting to take business classes should take them in Wharton, the final part of your comment struck me as completely unnecessary and offensive. (Continued…)

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Wharton & College Alum 2004

posted 11/03/07 @ 3:02 AM EST

"Liberal, not lazy"-

Thank you for your sanity and your eloquence.

Re: Elie Gitler's comment

posted 11/04/07 @ 5:22 PM EST

Elie Gitler's comment that many [SAS] students find Wharton classes to be "too difficult and not worth their time" is absurd. I know PLENTY of College students--myself included--who have taken Wharton classes for the purpose of learning more about business from the top profs in the country. (Continued…)

Mark P

posted 11/04/07 @ 5:28 PM EST

This IS NOT a business minor! It is only partially business, which is why there are some college courses. No one is getting a minor in business by only taking 3 classes in Wharton and 3 in the College. (Continued…)

John

posted 11/04/07 @ 8:07 PM EST

It is absurd and shameful that Wharton will not play along with this plan, instead continuing to wall itself off from the university. It is simply wasteful for the School of Arts & Sciences to expend precious resources in order to needlessly duplicate (at lower quality) classes that already exist. (Continued…)

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